Archive for October, 2009

1000 miles in less than 24 Hours on a SYM CityCom 300i!

Tuesday, October 27th, 2009

Hammy Hammers Down and Nails the Iron Butt Association’s SaddleSore 1000!

Jonathan Tan (Hammy) completed the required 1000 miles in 24 hours for the SaddleSore 1000 (SS1000) on his 2009 SYM Citycom 300i. Jon rode from Philadelphia to Springfield, Ohio and back – 1049 miles in under 24 hours!

Jonathan Tan End Of Ride

Except for locust, Jon encountered nearly every other natural phenomena. Departing on Saturday afternoon from the Philly suburbs, Jon was in the rain on the warm side of a weather front and transited heavy thunderstorms laced with hail on the way west. After passing through the heavy weather into the cold on the other side of the front, temperatures dropped into the 30’s by the middle of the night in Ohio. Heavy winds buffeted Jon heading west. The heavy weather made it through Jon’s raingear which, combined with a windchill that was sub-freezing at 60mph, made hypothermia a real concern. At one point he nearly lost feeling in his hands and feet. Jon was ready for this and wisely spent a few precious hours warming up and drying out in a hotel early Sunday morning. He resumed riding in the middle of the night and made it back within the allocated time – happy, healthy and really, really tired!

Jon had the help and support of many members of the Wild Hogs Scooter Club. SYM, MPG Motors and Gerbing personnel also contributed equipment and suggestions. Jon said his CityCom 300i (aka “Natasha”) ran “wonderfully” and almost non-stop for the 24 hour run.

Many of us were tracking Jon’s progress real time (graph below) through a SPOT system over the weekend and club members also volunteered as required witnesses for the SS1000. It was a team effort but Jon was the guy in the saddle, twisting the throttle, did the real work and got the job done!

SPOT Track

Jon showed tremendous perseverance and great judgement and we are really proud of him!

Great Job!

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Bike Electrics – How to know when enough is too much

Friday, October 16th, 2009

With the coming of shorter and colder days, we’ve been working hard on solutions so we can help extend the riding season here in Southeastern PA. We get a number of questions about heated (wired) clothing and will or won’t a bike support wired solutions. We have added standalone heated clothing to deal with the weather for our riding commuters on the bikes that we know won’t work. But, there is is a way to figure out what the system can handle. To determine what can work, I like to look at the observed voltage to see what is happening with electrics on a bike.

I had a conversation with Rick at Rick’s Motorsports Electrics (http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/) when I was looking for electric heated clothing solutions. We were talking about Hyosung’s particularly, as Rick makes stators (the thing that makes the electricity) and the regulator/rectifier (the thing that tells the stator what it should be doing to maintain battery charging voltage) for Hyosungs. Once those two, the stator or the reg/rec, are maxed out, your system is maxed out. A quick way to check this is to look at your voltage with the bike up on the center stand at idle and also with the engine revved up a bit (be careful, of course when you do this).

You can check the voltage with a very inexpensive multimeter from Radio Shack or the like (~$10). You measure the DC voltage with the multimeter at the battery on the + and – terminals. If you have a cigarette lighter adapter (like we do for the Battery Tender Jr.’s for bikes that have a lighter adapter), you just plug it in and stick the multimeter probes in the end of the lighter adapter to measure the DC voltage. We showed how to check a battery’s voltage Oct 15th, at our Maintenance Night.

The battery should be around 12.5 V at rest (bike not running). This is normal battery voltage for a 12V battery. You will see a big drop in voltage when you hit the starter. Makes sense, right? The engine isn’t running and the electrical starter, powered by the battery, is turning a cold engine. This voltage drop shows the battery is discharging and in a big way. The corresponding big amperage draw is why eventually a battery can’t turn over a non-starting motor.

Incidentally, a non-cranking motor does not mean the battery is bad. It often is just the result of the motor not starting for some other reason. You must, of course, now also deal with a discharged battery when one investigates the non-starting problem.

After the engine starts, the stator (an electricity generator) takes some of the power of the bike motor to make electricity to power the electrics (lights, turn signals, horn, etc.). The job of the regulator/rectifier is to take the AC voltage that the generator makes, convert it to DC that the battery needs and also not to fry the electrical system. Left to it’s own devices, the stator can make weird voltages that would hurt the bike – voltages like 18-19V DC. The electrical system wouldn’t survive this. We recently had a reg/rec fail on a scooter and it burned out the headlight. So, we generally see healthy voltages around 13-14.5V when a motor is running some minutes after a start. Rick said he tries to maintain 14.1V with his reg/rectifiers.

So to see what your bike can do, with the engine running, just start adding things and turning them on. Hit the horn, the turn signals, watch the voltage change so you can see how this works. Turn signals take, for example, quite a bit of power for some reason. The reg/rec will try to maintain the voltage designed into it to the limits that the stator can give you. If, with your accessories attached, you are not seeing ~13V at idle, a little more than the battery showed us at rest, you are or are close to discharging. A long time in traffic and then a stop for lunch could find you with a dead battery when you come out after eating – not enough power in the battery to start the bike. If you are not seeing ~13V off idle, that combination of accessories will not work, period.

Running a system that is always working maxed out? Rick didn’t seem to have an negative opinion about adding an accessory package that requires 100% of your stator-reg/rec all the time FWIW. I had a customer that added higher wattage headlights to a TNG Verona and we didn’t maintain 12.5V at idle but did off idle. That was four years ago…

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